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some of those who were injured in the ireland attack, join with norway's king and queen, to try to come to order with the massacre in this country. this was the worst peacetime attack norway has ever seen. the prime minister struggled to contain his obvious distress. on the verge of tears he told a stunned nation, every, single one of those we have lost is a tragedy in itself. together, it is a national tragedy. as he spoke, the king and queen wept, as the dead, so many, so young, were remembered. and this is the man who says he caused such heartbreak. a right-wing extremist, who admits the youth camp massacre and the oslo bombing. that bombing targeted the government. but it wasn't those in power who died. norway's death toll is frighteningly high. but there is a fear it will raise again. many of the buildings behind me are too damaged to search. and are believed to contain more bodies. a one-man campaign has an entire nation questioning how they can move forward from here. >>> here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america today. wedding bells rang throughout
some of those who were injured in the ireland attack, join with norway's king and queen, to try to come to order with the massacre in this country. this was the worst peacetime attack norway has ever seen. the prime minister struggled to contain his obvious distress. on the verge of tears he told a stunned nation, every, single one of those we have lost is a tragedy in itself. together, it is a national tragedy. as he spoke, the king and queen wept, as the dead, so many, so young, were...
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and they will end up paying disproportionately large amounts to bail out not only greece, portugal, ireland and italy. we haven't got a concrete view yet, main stream view, which will prevail. it's a tense time building up to that thursday meeting. >> steve sedgwick in london, thanks. >>> >>> efforts in washington, d.c. to make a deal on the deficit. both houses of congress now rolling out separate compromise plans in a bid to stave off a u.s. default. senate majority leader harry reid is joining with his republican counterpart, minority leader mitch mcconnell, to craft a solution trying to appeal to both parties. according to reports, though, the proposal would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times over the next year for a total of $2.5 trillion in exchange some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. and the plan would also establish a congressional committee to identify new deficit cuts. but the proposal is already getting a luke warm response from mcconnell's fellow republicans, including marco rubio as well as former member of gang of six, tom coburn. >> the way the
and they will end up paying disproportionately large amounts to bail out not only greece, portugal, ireland and italy. we haven't got a concrete view yet, main stream view, which will prevail. it's a tense time building up to that thursday meeting. >> steve sedgwick in london, thanks. >>> >>> efforts in washington, d.c. to make a deal on the deficit. both houses of congress now rolling out separate compromise plans in a bid to stave off a u.s. default. senate majority...
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ireland has enterprise, the canadian government does. believe it or not lots of economic development agencies around the world that are right here in the u.s. that are looking to help you grow your business. >> i guess if you're looking to start, and you can get money from an investor overseas it might be cheaper for you to start there, too. >> absolutely it can be. they're wonderful cost savings. we've soon that through outsourcing, the future is smart sourcing. so for example call centers in colombia are much, much better. wonderful spanish skills, great english skills, familiarity with western culture. low cost of business and favorable time zones. there's a lot of great software developers in chile and argentina. there are broader resources online where you can find developers in yeern europe and across the world. who knows you might find that they become critical parts of your business. >> there are resources like you and you're a company where you guys do this. when it comes time to make a deal or getting introductions that are pla
ireland has enterprise, the canadian government does. believe it or not lots of economic development agencies around the world that are right here in the u.s. that are looking to help you grow your business. >> i guess if you're looking to start, and you can get money from an investor overseas it might be cheaper for you to start there, too. >> absolutely it can be. they're wonderful cost savings. we've soon that through outsourcing, the future is smart sourcing. so for example call...
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ireland has enterprise, the canadian government does. there's lots of economic development agencies around the world that are right here in the u.s. that are looking to help you grow your business. >> i guess, if you're looking to start -- you're sort of at the start-up point now, and you can get money from an investor overseas, it might be cheaper for you to start there too. >> absolutely, it can be. there are wonderful cost savings. we've seen that with outsourcing, but the future is smart sourcing. call centers in columbia are becoming much, much bigger. obviously, spanish skills, great english skills as well. and you have favorable time zones because they're within the u.s. time zones. there's a lot of great software developers in chile and argentina. there are broader resources, even online like e-desk. look with them on projects that cost effective in overtime, and they become critical parts of your business. >> and they're resources like you and your company. so when it comes time to making a deal or getting introductions, there a
ireland has enterprise, the canadian government does. there's lots of economic development agencies around the world that are right here in the u.s. that are looking to help you grow your business. >> i guess, if you're looking to start -- you're sort of at the start-up point now, and you can get money from an investor overseas, it might be cheaper for you to start there too. >> absolutely, it can be. there are wonderful cost savings. we've seen that with outsourcing, but the future...
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perspective of ireland. >> right. >> it's the same type of thing. >> what is hurling in ireland aside from drinking whiskey? >> it's similar to field hockey. take a field hockey stick, mash it down, make it flat, then a lacrosse perspective to bounce the ball and it it at the same time. it's like lacrosse in the sky. field hockey in the sky. >> wow. i have never heard of that. >> when you go in various professional locker rooms in all sports, you can see athletes hiding skills on the field, football, baseball, basketball. you see them in the locker room playing chess, checkers or ping-pong. the competition is intention. when you go overseas and to the different countries and participate in the games, did you want to win? >> you want to win all the time. competition is inherent to all of us. were all sitting at the table now thinking about what way we can compete with one another. >> as the child of a wolverines -- >> the university of michigan. >> when is the university of michigan going to be back? >> right now. >> when you watch brady in the locker room talking to somebody -- >> he'
perspective of ireland. >> right. >> it's the same type of thing. >> what is hurling in ireland aside from drinking whiskey? >> it's similar to field hockey. take a field hockey stick, mash it down, make it flat, then a lacrosse perspective to bounce the ball and it it at the same time. it's like lacrosse in the sky. field hockey in the sky. >> wow. i have never heard of that. >> when you go in various professional locker rooms in all sports, you can see...
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ireland is 87% catholic. in an attack on the church unprecedented for an irish prime minister, he told his parliament the rape and torture of children were downplayed or managed to uphold instead the primacy of the institution in power, standing and reputation. his comments come on the heels of a judicial report released two weeks ago which revealed the vatican secretly discouraged irish bishops from reporting pedophile priests to police as was demanded by the dublin government. the report also suggested the diocese of county cork failed to act on the allegations against 19 priests between 1996 and 2009. the vatican says archbishop, also known as the papal nunzio, was recalled to help prepare an official response to irish complaints. but in a statement the holy see said its action denotes the seriousness of the situation as well as surprise and regret at certain excessive reactions. for more we're joined by richard downes the washington correspondent for r.t.e., ireland's national television station. richard,
ireland is 87% catholic. in an attack on the church unprecedented for an irish prime minister, he told his parliament the rape and torture of children were downplayed or managed to uphold instead the primacy of the institution in power, standing and reputation. his comments come on the heels of a judicial report released two weeks ago which revealed the vatican secretly discouraged irish bishops from reporting pedophile priests to police as was demanded by the dublin government. the report also...
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. >> the question is, how do you not look at the newspapers in greece, portugal, ireland, italy, california, across america and the states and not realize whether you are a progressive economist or not that we have too much debt in the system. >> the american public understands when you have millions of homes with mortgage that is exceed the value of their homes and credit lines, debt has consequences. they are right. >> would you agree with that howard dean? >> the issue that paul raises is how fast should we get rid of it? it's where we have to be careful. it's great to talk about the debt in washington. most people are worried about jobs, 5-1. paul makes a great point. jobs is the biggest problem, not the deficit. the deficit has gotten out of hand in almost every western country. there's a few that haven't. most of them have. we have to be mindful that the deficit matters. >> we do. i have never, ever read paul krugman suggest or say the debt matters. he sounds like dick cheney where he says deficits don't matter. anybody who tries to act responsibly on bringing down the deficit. look a
. >> the question is, how do you not look at the newspapers in greece, portugal, ireland, italy, california, across america and the states and not realize whether you are a progressive economist or not that we have too much debt in the system. >> the american public understands when you have millions of homes with mortgage that is exceed the value of their homes and credit lines, debt has consequences. they are right. >> would you agree with that howard dean? >> the...
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she mentioned wanting to adopt a child and adopt a child in ireland. she talked about having a child with an accent. that was off for the situation. she talked about having a dream of being pregnant at some point and saying she felt like she was having caylee all over again. she would like to provide a home for children across america who don't have one for homeless children. she showed a great deal of concern. she was most likely aware that these letters would actually be exposed to the media and every time of communication she had whether with her family or the videotapes jail conversations we saw in the trial, shoe knew they were going to be release and knew the letters would be sent out we don't know how much was kping for a sincere point of view and how much of it was her trying to share a certain image of herself. she was already aware was being scrutinized in the public eye and the public opinion. she talked about changing her appearance and said she would not get plastic surgery, but she would die her hair blond or red and change her name maybe
she mentioned wanting to adopt a child and adopt a child in ireland. she talked about having a child with an accent. that was off for the situation. she talked about having a dream of being pregnant at some point and saying she felt like she was having caylee all over again. she would like to provide a home for children across america who don't have one for homeless children. she showed a great deal of concern. she was most likely aware that these letters would actually be exposed to the media...
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seems like northern ireland's come through that dark period. one the reasons is i think some of the sports men like yourself have been really excelling. do you feel the weight of the expectation of the irish on your shoulders? >> a little bit. but i don't mind that. i don't mind carrying that around with me. because if what i do on the golf course provides hope for the people of northern ireland, then i can't really do a much better job than that. >> are you irish or british? can you be both? >> it's hard. i'm northern irish. i carry a united kingdom and -- a british passport. it's a hard one -- it's hard one to sort of answer because i've got my choice. i can play for ireland, i can play for great britain. it's a tough one. i mean -- it's always going to be -- i'm always going to have to answer that and deal with that question because of where i grew up and it's -- i regard myself as northern irish that's all i can really say. >> that's probably the diplomatic answer as well. >> yeah. have to be. >> did you have a tough upbringing, would you s
seems like northern ireland's come through that dark period. one the reasons is i think some of the sports men like yourself have been really excelling. do you feel the weight of the expectation of the irish on your shoulders? >> a little bit. but i don't mind that. i don't mind carrying that around with me. because if what i do on the golf course provides hope for the people of northern ireland, then i can't really do a much better job than that. >> are you irish or british? can...
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i'm here in ireland reading every paper just in case. i will move ahead. the lacies lived in cottage and palace. in 1848 dozens of families left cottage and the adjoining towns of pad ox, dogs town and palace. i find no mentions of evictions in the newspaper. 731 reported people the largest eviction of a town land in one day happened not 20 miles from cottage and palace in april of 1849. the story had one short paragraph about it in the paper. could it be that most evictions did not make it to the newspaper unless someone died? in the news of january 19th 1848, judith was ejected off a small farm by the landlords james and john parker. she wandered in want without shelter and entered her former abode on the 18th of august last. for this forceable possession shes tried and sentenced to 6 months confinement which punishment of and died of natural causes. eventually i find mention of the easterly of conwell evicting tenants in the near by town land. september 13, 1848 the newspaper says on monday last the agent of lord kwanwell attended by sheriff, police and
i'm here in ireland reading every paper just in case. i will move ahead. the lacies lived in cottage and palace. in 1848 dozens of families left cottage and the adjoining towns of pad ox, dogs town and palace. i find no mentions of evictions in the newspaper. 731 reported people the largest eviction of a town land in one day happened not 20 miles from cottage and palace in april of 1849. the story had one short paragraph about it in the paper. could it be that most evictions did not make it to...
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it was an alternative society within ireland. >> the catholic church here in ireland saw its influence begin to wane with the social upheaval in the 1960s. but in the past 20 years, two factors combined to accelerate that decline. first, sudden prosperity, and then the shocking revelations of sessi sexual abuse. the worldwide recession stopped the so-called celtic tiger in its tracks, but consumerism had already weakened the church's hold on the irish people, who had become far better educated over the previous 40 years. >> they questioned their faith, they questioned the right of bishops to tell them how to live their lives. >> the body blow, however, came from the clergy abuse scandals that hit harder and closer to home in ireland than anywhere else. here, almost everyone knows someone who's been affected. maybe we as older people did a lot of covering up. we were also into appearances, putting our best foot forward, saying the right things. i think with all the scandals that have been revealed, it certainly made people think more and question lot of things that were happening. >> ma
it was an alternative society within ireland. >> the catholic church here in ireland saw its influence begin to wane with the social upheaval in the 1960s. but in the past 20 years, two factors combined to accelerate that decline. first, sudden prosperity, and then the shocking revelations of sessi sexual abuse. the worldwide recession stopped the so-called celtic tiger in its tracks, but consumerism had already weakened the church's hold on the irish people, who had become far better...
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we give 7 billion pounds to the bailout in ireland. we give 100 billion, this is the british taxpayer, 100 million a year for their -- the quality of the banks in this country for insurance purposes and other purposes, why does the prime minister does not get on his back and go down to the friends of the city? instead -- >> we got the gist. the prime minister. >> first of all, mr. speaker, it is this government who has put a bank levee on the banks so they are paying more in every year than they paid in the bank bonus tax under the last government. in terms of greece, i kept us out of a european bailout of greece. in terms of ireland, i would say that economy is so close and integrated with ours it is right we give them support. that, i think, is the right approach but this government is being tough in making sure the banks pay their fair share. >> severe droughts, conflict in food prices have combined viciously in the horn of africa. creating desperate hunger and threatening the lives of millions. with eight agencies short of funds, w
we give 7 billion pounds to the bailout in ireland. we give 100 billion, this is the british taxpayer, 100 million a year for their -- the quality of the banks in this country for insurance purposes and other purposes, why does the prime minister does not get on his back and go down to the friends of the city? instead -- >> we got the gist. the prime minister. >> first of all, mr. speaker, it is this government who has put a bank levee on the banks so they are paying more in every...
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i can play for ireland, i can play for great britain. it's a tough one. i mean it's -- and it's always going -- i'm always going to have to answer that and deal with that question because of where i grew up. you know, i regard myself as northern irish and that's all i can really say. >> that's probably the diplomatic answer, isn't it? >> yeah, it would have to be. >> did you have a tough upbringing, would you say? did you have much money as a family? >> no. no, not at all. my mom and dad worked very hard to give me the best chance not just in golf but in life. you know, i was an only child, you know, my dad worked three jobs at one stage. my mom worked night shifts in a factory. >> what did they do? >> my dad was a bar manager and worked in separate places, you know, in the daytime and then in the night. and my mom worked in a factory that produced tape and sort of industrial goods and she worked night shift in there. so they worked very hard. and i -- being so young, you're sort of oblivious to it all, and it's only when you become a little older and a l
i can play for ireland, i can play for great britain. it's a tough one. i mean it's -- and it's always going -- i'm always going to have to answer that and deal with that question because of where i grew up. you know, i regard myself as northern irish and that's all i can really say. >> that's probably the diplomatic answer, isn't it? >> yeah, it would have to be. >> did you have a tough upbringing, would you say? did you have much money as a family? >> no. no, not at...
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and the european central bank was to take a more lenient position to ireland you have u.s. treasury secretary geithner saying wait a minute take a hard line for a for ireland you have to crush it because we've the u.s. banks financial casinos have insured irish debt same thing with greece it's the u.s. treasury that comes in and says wait a minute our financial system has turned into a i'd shape we've insured the greek debt and we can't afford to take a loss so your europeans have to take a loss you have to impoverish your later so that our financial well our wall street casino capitalist firms like goldman sachs can make a kelly and they can't pay their people one hundred million dollars a year in salary if you don't impoverished your labor we're making money off you and that's the financial system that's what we call stability so you may think it's our risk but it's not our risk if it were. telling you what to do what you were referring to risk isn't a risk if you let the u.s. treasury act is the battering ram for the wall street firms that insure the risk and say you thi
and the european central bank was to take a more lenient position to ireland you have u.s. treasury secretary geithner saying wait a minute take a hard line for a for ireland you have to crush it because we've the u.s. banks financial casinos have insured irish debt same thing with greece it's the u.s. treasury that comes in and says wait a minute our financial system has turned into a i'd shape we've insured the greek debt and we can't afford to take a loss so your europeans have to take a...
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ireland fought back, and to this day ireland has regained control of all of its land except northern ireland. >> reporter: traditionally, it's thought of as a war between two religions, catholic and protestant. >> when i got there, i couldn't believe how segregated the society was. there were walls running through the neighborhoods where these kids are from that keep them apart and basically sends the message that they shouldn't be friends with each other. that really inspired me to do something to make a change in kids' lives. >> reporter: so michael founded full court peace with basketball to cross the religious divide. >> basketball in northern ireland is not very popular, but it's neutral. sports like cricket and rugby are predominantly protestant, and gaelic football and hurling are predominantly catholic sports. i just realized that i could get both kids to play. they wouldn't look at a basketball and say "oh, that's only for the other side." >> reporter: now, a few years into the program, it seems their idea was a slam dunk. meet mark and dean. >> i'm protestant. >> and i'm a
ireland fought back, and to this day ireland has regained control of all of its land except northern ireland. >> reporter: traditionally, it's thought of as a war between two religions, catholic and protestant. >> when i got there, i couldn't believe how segregated the society was. there were walls running through the neighborhoods where these kids are from that keep them apart and basically sends the message that they shouldn't be friends with each other. that really inspired me to...
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military for years, countries including australia, canada, czech republic, finland, france, germany, ireland, israel, italy, lithuania, lux 'em berg, it's really from a to u. we don't have zimbabwe in there. chrystia, let me start with you. is this a good day for america in this sense? >> i think it's a great day. this has been a pretty bad year for a lot of people. it's been a bad year for the u.s. economy. it's been a bad year for people who are unemployed. but one point of light is, i think this is a year that america has taken a real step forward in terms of treating gay people like fully-fledged citizens. >> crystal, i have a friend whose line was the best on this. for us, if it's enough to die -- if you're willing to die, that's enough. and it seems that way. why shouldn't that be the way -- >> that's exactly right. we have dismissed 14,000 gay and lesbian service members since 1993. it's unbelievable. we have to keep our eyes on what the next fight is going to be and i think repeal of the defense of marriage act has to be repealed. if you're in the military and in a committed relation
military for years, countries including australia, canada, czech republic, finland, france, germany, ireland, israel, italy, lithuania, lux 'em berg, it's really from a to u. we don't have zimbabwe in there. chrystia, let me start with you. is this a good day for america in this sense? >> i think it's a great day. this has been a pretty bad year for a lot of people. it's been a bad year for the u.s. economy. it's been a bad year for people who are unemployed. but one point of light is, i...
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the implications off that for greece, italy, spain, ireland, europe, for our investments, for their investments in us, and for our standing in the world is extraordinary. you know the chinese are looking at us right now and they are just gleeful and incredulous at the way in which one of the great competitors is imploding on itself, because a group of absolutists and extremists don't understand the implication of what they are doing, and prepared to hold the entire economy hostage and it is unprecedented of anything i have seen in all of the time i have been in public life, and i think it is damaging and dangerous and reckless and irresponsible. >> you will know, sir, that those 87 freshmen that you refer namelessly to would say they are absolutely committed to the pledges they were given, and elected to do and only doing what they promised to do? >> well, the way to do what they have set out to do frankly, they ought to know when they have had something of a victory and take it home and celebrate it. because, they there are unprecedented cuts and we are going to be on a track which all of us s
the implications off that for greece, italy, spain, ireland, europe, for our investments, for their investments in us, and for our standing in the world is extraordinary. you know the chinese are looking at us right now and they are just gleeful and incredulous at the way in which one of the great competitors is imploding on itself, because a group of absolutists and extremists don't understand the implication of what they are doing, and prepared to hold the entire economy hostage and it is...
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well we know in greece we've already listed that last episode ireland has the national airline ports power stations energy suppliers transport systems sporting assets and even the irish national stud well thank you very much and i'm not for snow. whatever that is a sooner it has something to do with horses it's all about more semen ok and then spain is selling thirty percent of its state lottery now this is the biggest lottery in the world it's called el gordo it's been around for one hundred fifty one years but spain is not as badly indebted as other european countries but bond yields have soared so because of this they have to sell el gordo the company recorded three billion euro net profit in two thousand and nine on sales of nine point eight billion euros meaning the sell off will reduce treasury income by about one billion euros a year ok so spain is now being attacked by the financial terrorists the people who sell short bonds to destabilize the country's finances in preparation of extracting wealth and these of course make it short cells which are counterfeiting they sell thin
well we know in greece we've already listed that last episode ireland has the national airline ports power stations energy suppliers transport systems sporting assets and even the irish national stud well thank you very much and i'm not for snow. whatever that is a sooner it has something to do with horses it's all about more semen ok and then spain is selling thirty percent of its state lottery now this is the biggest lottery in the world it's called el gordo it's been around for one hundred...
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we've seen this happen in ireland and portugal. but here it's kind of contrived because people still want to buy american debt and lend us the money we need. at the same time, if the economy crashes, if people are unemployed, if interest rates go up, won't there be fewer revenues coming in so that we can settle what we should settle, which is the longstanding debt. >> sir, what do you think of the balanced budget amendment that was added to the boehner bill? >> well, i think it's a little fantasy. last time i checked it takes two-thirds. look, you're not going to get two-thirds of the house and you're not going to get two-thirds of the senate to vote. it's just political opposition. so, you know, they can't even get two-thirds of -- if every republican voted for it, you wouldn't get two-thirds in the house and you're not going to get it. and, plus, what are we going to do, get three-fifths of the states to get it approved? look, let's face it it's good politics for them back at home, but it's going to be poor public policy and i ho
we've seen this happen in ireland and portugal. but here it's kind of contrived because people still want to buy american debt and lend us the money we need. at the same time, if the economy crashes, if people are unemployed, if interest rates go up, won't there be fewer revenues coming in so that we can settle what we should settle, which is the longstanding debt. >> sir, what do you think of the balanced budget amendment that was added to the boehner bill? >> well, i think it's a...
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right now we're in a spiral in greece ireland and portugal because of all the austerity measures that the economies are just spiraling into nothing big or chumps these irish are because remember when they were the first to go into the sterile butchering they didn't revolt in any way and then when athens started to revolt in the street people in ireland are very proud of the. greek when they were thinking that we're not out there actually defending our interests and you see that there are no plans anywhere where the greece portugal or ireland to develop a real economy at all irish finance minister michael noonan has pleaded with consumers to replace their clapped out refrigerators and tumble dryer so where are these tumble dryer is a refrigerator is made probably china or germany it's not going to help their economy at all consuming does not help their economy producing helps their economy the companies that the irish government is encouraging to relocate to ireland and in dublin now are companies like. that create virtual currency which is a backdoor way into gambling they just figure
right now we're in a spiral in greece ireland and portugal because of all the austerity measures that the economies are just spiraling into nothing big or chumps these irish are because remember when they were the first to go into the sterile butchering they didn't revolt in any way and then when athens started to revolt in the street people in ireland are very proud of the. greek when they were thinking that we're not out there actually defending our interests and you see that there are no...